“It’s a standard practice for Unum and other insurance carriers that they require policy holders to apply for social security disability benefits,” says Peter Burke. “They take it as an offset; it reduces the amount of benefits they owe the policy holder.”
Over the years, many people who have been cut off from Unum’s disability benefits have asked this reporter if this practice is legal. It is legal. However, it borders on bad faith practices.
“Most often the policy holder is a company like the policy holder’s employer, and more often than not, it is governed by ERISA,” Burke explains. “And some contracts require that the carrier steer the policy holder to services that help them apply for social security benefits.”
Such is Bob’s case. His Unum representative directed Bob to Unum’s in-house ‘Genex’— which provides disability case management, vocational rehabilitation and related services to corporations, third-party administrators, and insurance companies. “This practice with Genex has always confused me,” says Bob. “I did everything they told me to do. They never requested that I see one of their independent medical examiners. They said an Unum rep would come to my home because I couldn’t go to them--I have a walker and I don’t have a car. Nobody came.
"Genex was helpful and I can understand why they helped me apply for social security. Unum paid me $2700 per month but I only get $1600 per month from social security. Unum was going to make up the difference until I reached 72 -- I just turned 59.” Bob says they never made up the difference.
What is the federal government’s position on this practice—can Unum actually deny Bob by insisting he must collect social security benefits? Burke says the government’s position is that they are only going to pay if Bob is disabled, so it is an entitlement he has a right to, regardless.
This is what ends up happening. “Even though Unum requires Bob to apply for social security benefits, Unum’s criteria for being disabled is different from the government,” Burke explains, “so Unum will say, ‘The government’s definition is different than our policy and therefore, it may be relevant but it is not controlling’.
“Some egregious things can happen where the insurance carrier also requires the person to apply for social security. They go through the process and the carrier—such as Unum—stops paying benefits. Then a year later, the person is awarded social security benefits and Unum demands your overpayment, or back pay. Here is the kicker: Unum will no longer recognize that you are disabled. They will claim the record of the time of that decision is past. So that is where you get caught: the carrier is trying to get the government to accept your disability and pay your benefits, but then the carrier says 'oh by the way, we want you to repay money based on that finding of disability’.”
Burke adds that Unum, and other carriers, will typically give a credit to the policy holder against whatever fee they pay to a lawyer who helps get you that favorable decision from social security. Say you are entitled to $18,000 in back pay and your lawyer receives a fee out of that for $14,000. Unum will ask for $14,000 rather than $18,000. So Unum will acknowledge that the policy holder pays the lawyer. They just aren’t that generous with their policy holders.
If, like Bob, Unum tells you to apply for social security, Burke advises that you check your policy first--there will be a provision in your contract that talks about the duties you owe to them.
“One provision is that you must provide medical information and another is that you apply for benefits that you might otherwise be entitled to, including social security,” says Burke. “It is in your best interest to do so regardless. If you do qualify, the chance that the government cuts you off is a lot less likely than Unum, which is always mindful of the bottom line.
“You don’t necessarily need a lawyer to apply, but I think having one involved in the process, regardless at what stage, is beneficial: Your interests will be looked after in a way that they otherwise wouldn’t be. As well, the attorney’s office can act as a go-between with the medical providers and Unum to ensure that all relevant information regarding your disability is presented.”
Unum wants you to make a mistake. “For instance, Unum likes to put in their notes that you were supposed to call your doctor, you didn’t call, and your doctor didn’t respond,” adds Burke. “Your lawyer will have a paper trail, which is important if you have to appeal the decision. Most times it is done on the administration record, and you want to make sure all your ducks are in a row. In other words, make sure you have all the paperwork.”
Back to Bob…
“I got my first social security check in March of 2010 and Unum hasn’t paid me a dime since. Instead they billed me $10,000. But my social security administrator said my benefits go back to the day you are first disabled so I received back pay.”
Bob says that his social security rep told him not to pay Unum. “She said, ‘Do not pay Unum that $10,000 because they are notorious for taking that money and then canceling your policy,’ and that is exactly what happened. Unum sent me a letter soon after I got my first social security check and said that I was no longer disabled and I was perfectly capable of going back to work.
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I"’m not trying to screw Unum out of money—I just want what is mine. I will always be disabled; it isn’t like I can grow a new spinal column. It is like I have no rights anymore. Now I make $19,000 a year and that is considered beneath the poverty level. I am so grateful to have a roof over my head but that’s it. I have gone bankrupt. I rely on a food bank to get food and I am physically unable to do much.
"I want other people to know that Unum lies. They take money out of peoples’ pockets to further their own business and they definitely do not help their policy holders. I have talked to many people in similar situations. How companies like Unum stay in business is beyond me.”
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April 2013. It's only been 10 months and UNUM is telling me I must apply for Social Security. No one told me this in the beginning and I have read every word of my policy and nowhere does it state I must apply for SSDI because I have no return to work plan on file. I was never asked for one. I have M.S. and have always gone back to work and I expect to be ready to do so within six months at most. I want them to show me in writing, where it states that I am required to apply for these benefits. I also have one of the first approval letters that states they were waiving the requirement for me to apply for SSDI. This was when I first learned that I may be forced to apply. I still don't have it in writing anywhere that this is a requirement.
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I have since 2005 had 13 major ankle surgeries due to a breaking my ankle....I was terminated from Discover Card due to to many days missed in a 2 year period for medical reasons. I had many complications with my surgeries, I got MRSA, compartment syndrome, RSD, nhemonia, and months in casts, boots, non weightbearing, and agonizing pain for 4 years. I had fusions foot to ankle, they never took, so after 4 years my ankle surgeon said, you have a choice to make....1. stay on morphine for pain at home and have no life. 2. Have an amputation. After a very hard decision I decided to have the amputation, below the knee.
that was in 2009, with a long recovery. Every year since with Unum they call me to update my status...my status has not changed, my leg did not grow back. I am on many meds for phantom pain, depression, anxiety due to all I went through...I still have a fear of a full flight of stairs....My problem is SSI says that I am disabled but Unum does not anymore. Received my yearly call 2-3 months ago and finally got a call from them stating that I was no longer eligible for benefits as there 2 physicians came to the conclusion that I could go to work in the same sort of work I did at Discover. Unbelievable....I am 63 years old for Gods sake and the amount that they pay me is $105 a month. They said this month Feb 2014 would be my last payment from them...I am so upset and don't need all this hassle...
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Then oh, "just heard that your employer" did not provide you with a policy (almost two years later) so here is a copy.
Then file again or drop your claim....This time approved for SSDI but Unum started taking 2000.00 a month from my claim to "repay back spouse and childrens SSDI" .
2008-2013 no benefits and they convinced my state that my attorney and I refused to provide requested information and we were too mean.
I do not have an attorney.
I did not file for any family benefits.
Top it all off...after Unum approved claim (after they received updated medical information and on same day sent letter out informaing that my doctors missed the "10 day" deadline for additional information....they informed me that I had to get the information.
Unum never sent any proof that they sent out any request to my doctors, they faked the date which was caught but they did not care. Under a reservation of rigjhts I was approved....and then more horrors
File for SSDI through Genex, Unum will pay the costs. Genex sends letter to me stating that my insurance carrier abd Genex have no contact with one another and I had to supply information.
Unum and Genex are the same company but Senator Grassley investigation revealed truth and they were sold.
Left without any income, large bogus bill (I even have a form that was called Protection Income Claim (used by employer to ensure claim would never be dropped.)
My employer informed me that Unum requires everyone to file for SSDI.
Unum told me that my employer required that I file for SSDI.
Month before approval Unum sent a letter informing that the income would not be reduced if I kept them informed about SSDI. (They were told everything when we filed and denied, etc...
Approved for SSDI but only a phone call from SSA and that the award would come in the mail. I passed this along to Unum but they started reducing claim before I had anything to give them...why?
They claim I did not answer two letters, one each year...first date (I checked the record and guess what, yes, I did answer them and they thanked me in writing for speaking to them on that date.
Next date, they made another false claim, but oh well..and it took close to 5 months to find out why I was loosing benefits.
My medical records were falsified and the state has tried to help me (now) but not much help...
I have never been denied for LTD and the only reason Unum did not get the details of SSDI award was I did not have anything to give them...
I have so many actions such as above but I cannot get help...Not only did my ex-employer hired Unum as TPA but Unum also hired the ex employer to provide similar actions for Life and LTD benefits.
I had no reason to doubt there requests (no policy) but when I finally realized something was very wrong my company, under investigation for stock fraud and they were sold.)
If we were the ones lying to State, SSDI, etc... We would be in jail.
BEFORE you file a claim call an attorney. Start reviewing the court records (I didn't have that help until 2006)
So many lawsuits that courts have defined a Standard of Review...
Sad, but true, the reason I am disabled started when in the military 25 years ago. I have to remind myself that the Lord is in control and nothing happens without a lesson.
Do not trust what is told to you, demand the information by the TPA or Employer.
As fort SSDI...if Unum is forced to approve a claim they may but they have other ways to drop you...
Check what medications you take and document their usaged especially if the med may be used for depression or mental problems...Even if the same prescription is written for a medical reason such as elavil (FMS use this drug but so does those depressed...)
SSDI benefits are paid for both medical or mental illness, it doesn't matter.
Unum only pays for TWO years if they find a way to make it appear that mental illness is part of the disability... I caught this after they llied about my doctors missing a 10 day dead-line....but after the fact they finally did send a letter and one of the 10 questions stated, Me has a "history of mental illness" and did the doctor believe that was the root cause of the illness?
Doctors who do not know the patient could easily mistake that question but you may never know if Unum asks such a question.....
Help yourself, don't let a greedy company to take away your health by making you put them first and knowing at any time you could be dropped.
I lost my health, my carrer and all of my retirement but I am blessed to have a husband who loves me almost as much as Christ. He already carried the sin of the world and I stand on His promises.
Hang on to hope and the love of the Saviour.
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I did notice that they had incorrect information on a payment receipt, but after telling the lady, she only increased my monthly payment, but did nothing about the nine years earlier. After approx 90 days I wrote a letter which provided information as to the correct facts. I was very lucky - they sent me 46 thousand dollars for back payment increases. Although this is wonderful, I get taxed for the increased tax bracket this lump some payment put me in. They are unwilling to mark-up the lump sume to pay for the taxes at year end. They said just send back the check, They did pay interest on the amount but not taxes. Their mistake in accounting will cost me royal in March 2013. I am not finished yet on this matter!
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